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    Post Ex-Prime Minister Baroness Thatcher dies, aged 87

    BBC News - Ex-Prime Minister Baroness Thatcher dies, aged 87

    Former Prime Minister Baroness Thatcher has died "peacefully" at the age of 87 after suffering a stroke, her family has announced.
    Successor David Cameron called her a "great Briton" and the Queen spoke of her sadness at the death.
    Lady Thatcher was Conservative prime minister from 1979 to 1990. She was the first woman to hold the role.
    She will not have a state funeral but will be accorded the same status as Princess Diana and the Queen Mother.
    The union jack above Number 10 has been lowered to half-mast.
    Mr Cameron, who is in Madrid for meetings, has cancelled planned talks in Paris with French President Francois Hollande and will return to the UK later on Monday.
    'Great leader'Lady Thatcher, born Margaret Roberts, served as MP for Finchley, north London, from 1959 to 1992.
    Having been education secretary, she successfully challenged former prime minister Edward Heath for her party's leadership in 1975 and won general elections in 1979, 1983 and 1987.
    Lady Thatcher's government privatised several state-owned industries. She was also in power when the UK went to war with Argentina over the Falkland Islands in 1982.
    In a statement on the Downing Street Twitter feed, Mr Cameron said: "It was with great sadness that l learned of Lady Thatcher's death. We've lost a great leader, a great prime minister and a great Briton."
    A Buckingham Palace spokesman said: "The Queen was sad to hear the news of the death of Baroness Thatcher. Her Majesty will be sending a private message of sympathy to the family."
    London Mayor Boris Johnson tweeted: "Very sad to hear of death of Baroness Thatcher. Her memory will live long after the world has forgotten the grey suits of today's politics."
    UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage called Lady Thatcher a "great inspiration", adding: "Whether you loved her or hated her nobody could deny that she was a great patriot, who believed passionately in this country and her people. A towering figure in recent British and political history has passed from the stage. Our thoughts and prayers are with her family."
    Senior Conservative MP David Davis said: "Margaret Thatcher was the greatest of modern British prime ministers, and was central to the huge transformation of the whole world that took place after the fall of the Soviet Union.
    "Millions of people in Britain and around the world owe her a debt of gratitude for their freedom and their quality of life, which was made possible by her courageous commitment to the principles of individual freedom and responsibility."
    Lady Thatcher had suffered poor health for several years.

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    May she rest in peace.
    Now is not the time to dwell on issues, or her sometimes controversial policies, but I always admired her strength of purpose and commitment to ideas she believed in. She will stand as one of the great figures of Twentieth Century politics.

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    I've basically spent the entire day arguing with folks (defending Thatcher). I'm a Labour-kid through and through, but Thatcher was exactly what Britain needed on more than one occasion. RIP

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    ^ Have you heard of Section 28? Section 28 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by clh_hilary View Post
    ^ Have you heard of Section 28? Section 28 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Yes, of course I have. There's a lot worse you could find on Thatcher, perhaps most notably her reluctance to join the anti-Apartheid boycott.

    Doesn't change her accomplishments, though, and the good she brought the Kingdom.

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    In my opinion, she was a great Prime Minister ! I miss her sarcasms when she argued

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    She also called Medela a terrorist. She's basically as close to a dictator as you could find in a supposedly democratic society. She's assertive and she doesn't listen to anyone's opinions, and she's not even subtle about that. It's definitely not surprise that she's actually rather hated in Britain and the Wizard of Oz song, Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead​, is now quickly closing into Top 10 on UK iTunes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clh_hilary View Post
    She also called Medela a terrorist. She's basically as close to a dictator as you could find in a supposedly democratic society. She's assertive and she doesn't listen to anyone's opinions, and she's not even subtle about that. It's definitely not surprise that she's actually rather hated in Britain and the Wizard of Oz song, Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead​, is now quickly closing into Top 10 on UK iTunes.
    That's putting it mildly

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    And there's a reason for that. I personally wouldn't mind her having missteps if she would admit to having mistakes and try to make up for them. Like how she's collaboratively destroyed the green areas in developing countries and had been a big environmentalist in the later part of her life. But for Sec 28, for example, she never admitted to anything, not like President Clinton for DOMA.

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    Ding-Dong The Witch Is Dead from Carrie's beloved The Wizard of Oz is now #1 on UK iTunes & Amazon with a healthy margin. It's been #1 on Amazon for a day or two, and on iTunes for around 20 hours now. It's already Top 5 in UK mid-week, and is now having a great chance to actually go #1 this week. Lady Thatcher's funeral next Wednesday might be what it takes to sustain its sales for a second week atop the British charts. The version that is selling is credited to Judy Garland on iTunes, even though she hardly performed in the short rendition of the track - If the credit stays the same, it will be her first Top 10 hit in the UK, and one after she dies 43 years ago.

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    The campaign to get the song to number one this week fell short of its target by a few thousand sales - but it has reached number two.

    This is an oddity in chart history, as the song is not only over 70 years old, but also lasts less than a minute - making it the shortest top ten song in history.

    The controversial nature of a song celebrating the very recent death of a person who has close living relatives posed a dilemma for the BBC. They decided on free speech grounds to report the charting, but only played a brief clip, replacing the rest by a factual descriptive account, on sensitivity grounds.

    (Admirers of the Iron Lady have also tried to chart a song "I'm In Love With Margaret Thatcher", but this has so far only reached number 35)

    Story here:
    Anti-Thatcher song 'Ding Dong the Witch is Dead' misses top spot in Radio 1 charts - News - Music - The Independent

    Two surviving actors from the Wizard of Oz have expressed their regret at a song from the film being used in this way
    Munchkins slam use of Ding Dong! The Witch is Dead after Margaret Thatcher's death | Metro News

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    The current No.1 was at its second week in the penthouse, both selling between 50k-60k copies this past week. Lady Thatcher died on Monday so 'Ding-Dong The Witch Is Dead' did almost have a full week to sell, but it did not reach #1 on iTunes (It reached #1 on Amazon earlier.) until the later part of the working week, and fell from #1 before the end of the chart week. 'I'm In Love With Margaret Thatcher' was a single released before the former Prime-Minister has rose into power, and apparently the band does not actually fancy her, and it was more of a satirical work. It only started selling on iTunes after BBC tried to make DDTWIS rather big of a deal - It reached as high as #7 on iTunes and fell quickly after. Judy Garland is a legendary gay icon but has never reached any higher than No.18 on the UK charts before. I believe the sales gap was around 57000 copies.

    Currently both songs are free-falling in sales, but the winner could spend another week in the Top 40.


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