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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrie&Taylor View Post
    Science has always tried to prove God does not exist. Yet they still cannot prove otherwise.

    And the Christians have yet to prove he did. Go back and read the history of the bible. No one can even PROVE God had a hand in writing it. It is pretty much an accepted fact it was written by many people - that say they heard it from God (heresay) - but their were generations before it was written down and it has been said that more then likely, everyone added their interpretations to it over those generations.

    Plus, you are further proving pk's theory. This is your religion and your bible. Not everyone out there follows your religion and your bible. There are all types of religious beliefs. Just because your movement is big and well organized, does not automatically mean it is the only theory or the one and only correct one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pkc4rls View Post
    And the Christians have yet to prove he did. Go back and read the history of the bible. No one can even PROVE God had a hand in writing it. It is pretty much an accepted fact it was written by many people - that say they heard it from God (heresay) - but their were generations before it was written down and it has been said that more then likely, everyone added their interpretations to it over those generations.

    Plus, you are further proving pk's theory. This is your religion and your bible. Not everyone out there follows your religion and your bible. There are all types of religious beliefs. Just because your movement is big and well organized, does not automatically mean it is the only theory or the one and only correct one.
    Pam, I have to say that those are some VERY valid points that you just made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrie&Taylor View Post
    We never celibrated Christmas cause its a Catholic holiday
    What?!?!?!

    How can you be a Christian, and not CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS!?!?!

    Hello?!?! It's about the birth of Christ!?!?!

    Wow, hmmm.. PK is right, your family has lead you down a VERY odd path.

    I hope for your sake you can get out and enjoy life, and not be so sheltered by your parents views on life and God!

    You don't have to follow your parents beliefs, you CAN be your own person. In fact I insist you do be your own person, because the world doesn't need anymore people like your dad!
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    We do not all practice under the same faith or religion. Practice the faith that you believe but also realize that everyone is not you and not only see things differently but have lived a different life and circumstances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daraebe View Post
    We do not all practice under the same faith or religion. Practice the faith that you believe but also realize that everyone is not you and not only see things differently but have lived a different life and circumstances.
    I understand that, but this is CHRISTMAS, lol!

    I just have a really hard time believing that someone who is such a "christian" doesn't celebrate Christmas!?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrie&Taylor View Post
    Its not in the Bible!
    Nor are caterpillars! Guess God didn't make those either!

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    I'm HINDU, and WE celebrated Christmas every year!

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    If the early church could celebrate the resurrection without a specific command from God, why is it that people can not celebrate Christmas just because it is not in the bible

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    My grandma is extremely religious yet she does't celebrate Christmas either while my family does. She thinks Jesus may not have actually been born on December 25th, it's not really about celebrating his birth, and it was actually created by non-Christians. Point is, people have their own interpretation of the bible and we should respect that. Just as we are asking for understanding and toleration, we should return that to Carrie&Taylor instead of criticizing her for not celebrating Christmas and for having "strange" beliefs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarrieFan928 View Post
    My grandma is extremely religious yet she does't celebrate Christmas either while my family does. She thinks Jesus may not have actually been born on December 25th, it's not really about celebrating his birth, and it was actually created by non-Christians. Point is, people have their own interpretation of the bible and we should respect that. Just as we are asking for understanding and toleration, we should return that to Carrie&Taylor instead of criticizing her for not celebrating Christmas and for having "strange" beliefs.
    Hey, no one's saying he's strange or weird...Well, not because of the Christmas thing

    It's just uncommon, that's all. I also think it's possible to celebrate Christmas as a purely secular holiday, anyway. If you're Christian, it adds a religious dimension. If not, it's just about family and good food. Lord knows we can use with any excuse to bring family closer

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    Quote Originally Posted by carebear4eva View Post
    hey, no one's saying he's strange or weird...well, not because of the christmas thing

    it's just uncommon, that's all. I also think it's possible to celebrate christmas as a purely secular holiday, anyway. If you're christian, it adds a religious dimension. If not, it's just about family and good food. lord knows we can use with any excuse to bring family closer
    yes! This!

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    Well, it made it to the cover of AOl.com
    The comments are all positive so far.
    Hopefully, this will simply expand her outreach. there were alot of people hesitant to embrace her as a singer because of thier own biases and assumptions about "who she would be as a person". and this somehow creates a more diverse individual that more liberal minded people will now be able to see with a more open mind.
    I do actually think that she will gain more than she will lose in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pklongbeach View Post
    Well, it made it to the cover of AOl.com
    The comments are all positive so far.
    Hopefully, this will simply expand her outreach. there were alot of people hesitant to embrace her as a singer because of thier own biases and assumptions about "who she would be as a person". and this somehow creates a more diverse individual that more liberal minded people will now be able to see with a more open mind.
    I do actually think that she will gain more than she will lose in the end.
    Honestly, the hateful people will be more exposed than ever imo. Carrie Underwood is clearly a clean and loving individual. When she comes out with support, I think it makes possibly an even greater difference than any celebrity has ever made. Katy Perry/Lady Gaga fans were gay friendly before they put their support (obv not trying to take away from the positive that they have done with their support of course). In a way, Carrie can kind of be seen as one of the first truly conservative people to put her support, even tho many country artists have in the past just because of her stature and fame. Were Reba and Dolly really risking a career with their support? probably not as much as Carrie Underwood because she's at her prime.
    Becca
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    Yes, it makes a very big difference.
    You know this whole thing is really starting to bother me.
    the more and more I am reading the comments even on this site. I realize that there are alot of people out there are are just really awful.
    And I don't understand how it is specifically christians.
    How are christians ever going to teach the world about christs love if they are so mean and ugly.
    They know gays are perscuted, they know they are emotionally tortured. And they actually feed on it.
    they actually celebrate it.
    They will throw away the kindness and generosity of someone like Carrie Underwood just so they can continue to hate people.
    Jesus, Take the Wheel!!
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    Just to make a brief comment:

    I celebrate Christmas, but I don't know why we do. Jesus did not ask for us to celebrate His birth, but he did ask for us to celebrate His death. Also, Jesus was not born on December 25th. It's just an agreed date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manchs View Post
    Just to make a brief comment:

    I celebrate Christmas, but I don't know why we do. Jesus did not ask for us to celebrate His birth, but he did ask for us to celebrate His death. Also, Jesus was not born on December 25th. It's just an agreed date.
    It's a commercial holiday at this point. Everyone loves the music and the movies and the decorations etc. not taking away from the people who actually celebrate the religious aspect obviously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pklongbeach View Post
    Yes, it makes a very big difference.
    You know this whole thing is really starting to bother me.
    the more and more I am reading the comments even on this site. I realize that there are alot of people out there are are just really awful.
    And I don't understand how it is specifically christians.
    How are christians ever going to teach the world about christs love if they are so mean and ugly.
    They know gays are perscuted, they know they are emotionally tortured. And they actually feed on it.
    they actually celebrate it.
    They will throw away the kindness and generosity of someone like Carrie Underwood just so they can continue to hate people.
    Jesus, Take the Wheel!!
    Unfortunately, there are some EXTREMELY unhappy and hateful people in this world. I can guarantee that gays are just an easy target, these type of people are mean and hateful in all aspects of their lives. and the internet is where many losers go to take out their aggression from the day.
    Becca
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbluegrl23 View Post
    It's a commercial holiday at this point. Everyone loves the music and the movies and the decorations etc. not taking away from the people who actually celebrate the religious aspect obviously.
    Becca
    Yes, and I'm still waiting for that "full" Carrie Christmas album!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbluegrl23 View Post
    It's a commercial holiday at this point. Everyone loves the music and the movies and the decorations etc. not taking away from the people who actually celebrate the religious aspect obviously.
    Becca
    Yeah, pretty much. lol But I agree with Lstname89, I need that xmas album
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    I want a christmas album BAD!
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