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    Deep Down in 2011 (Carrie mention)

    Deep Down in 2011
    by Kevin John Coyne
    November 28, 2011

    Lately, I’ve been playing “Deep Down” on a loop, and it got me thinking…

    What if one of the big female artists of 2011 were the first to release this song?

    If Carrie Underwood recorded it in 2011, the song would be praised as one of the best she’s ever recorded, but she’d be criticized for over-singing and over-producing it.

    If Taylor Swift recorded it in 2011, the song would be praised as one of the best she’s ever recorded, but she’d be criticized for missing every other note, even with the help of auto-tune.

    If Miranda Lambert recorded it in 2011, the song would be praised as one of the best she’s ever recorded, and further evidence that she’s the messiah of contemporary country music, regardless of how she sang or produced it.
    More at: Country Universe – A Country Music Blog » Deep Down in 2011


    Interesting article, lol. Thoughts?

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    I would have to agree with absolutely everything in the article. It seems that no matter how uninteresting, how understated, how underwhelming some of her music is, Miranda is having a field day with press, publicity, awards, acclaims, credits, etc. that it goes above and beyond voice and style when it comes to ratings. Carrie is consistently overlooked for her power and range recently. She (Carrie) is actually deserving of female vocalist in every award show, but it consistently goes to Miranda.

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    Wow ,I agree with them completely.
    That's how it's been for 3 years regardless of what songs those artist put out.

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    Also agree.
    And it points at the problem that people have with looking at each of these three women as individuals with individual strengths.
    Yes, it is unfair that Miranda sings average songs in an average way and gets praised as a legend in the industry.
    Yes, it is unfair that Taylor sings simple songs and struggles with pitch constantly and gets lost in the fact that people over publisize her abilities.
    & Yes, it is unfair that Carrie sings songs that should have a bigger impact among the industry but they are too jaded by her exceptional singing ability so all they hear is M.Brights overproduction and blame her for it.
    But I think the bloggers point is that each women is being somewhat pigion-holed and is not being judged clearly but being judged with an already established stereotype in place.
    And that is what is mostly unfair.

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    Nice PK. I totally agree with all the previous comments.

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    So sad and so true - frustrating for Carrie - a plus for Miranda and won't comment re TS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DizzyDollyDee View Post
    So sad and so true - frustrating for Carrie - a plus for Miranda and won't comment re TS.
    It is frustrating for Carrie as she does such an amazing job on everythng she touches. And it gets lost in the "commercialism" of her star status.
    And yes, it is a plus for Miranda cause all she really has to do is show up and sing and she is met with accolades that don't seem to reflect the output.
    IT seems like she is contantly pinching herself wondering where all this praise is coming from when just a few short years ago she was considered just average and nothing in that time has changed except marketing.
    Carrie on the other hand simply opens her mouth and it becomes clear why she has been propelled to the level she is at. She has and has always had the talent to back up her success. In every way.

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    You go, Ty...for your comments on that page!!!

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    LEMMINGS=CRITICS


    Miranda and Taylor both know the truth....Miranda keeps her fans when she sings.... Taylor performs and her fans don't care what comes out of her mouth...
    Carrie earns fans when she sings.... Over singing and over production is something critics and haters say because that's all they have.....

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    Did you see what the author said in the comments section?
    Kevin John Coyne says:
    November 28, 2011 at 1:25 pm
    I think that of the three, Carrie would do the song the best, and by a fairly wide margin. She’s the best singer.
    One of my points is that the narrative changes depending on the artist, and also that the song would stand out as brilliant today but didn’t in 1995.
    Really, when you think about the signature songs of the nineties artists referenced – “Maybe it Was Memphis”, “Something in Red”, “The Song Remembers When” – even most of their better singles pale in comparison.
    (I hope that was okay to post, please don't shoot me)

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    To me this article just validates what some us on here have already said and that is Carrie is held to much higher standards than her peers. It is going to be interesting to see who wins FVOTY at the ACM's in 2012. I think Miranda will win again but actually Taylor should win based on what she did in 2011.

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    Carrie holds herself to high standards and that's just another reason I love her!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pklongbeach View Post
    Also agree.
    And it points at the problem that people have with looking at each of these three women as individuals with individual strengths.
    Yes, it is unfair that Miranda sings average songs in an average way and gets praised as a legend in the industry.
    Yes, it is unfair that Taylor sings simple songs and struggles with pitch constantly and gets lost in the fact that people over publisize her abilities.
    & Yes, it is unfair that Carrie sings songs that should have a bigger impact among the industry but they are too jaded by her exceptional singing ability so all they hear is M.Brights overproduction and blame her for it.
    But I think the bloggers point is that each women is being somewhat pigion-holed and is not being judged clearly but being judged with an already established stereotype in place.
    And that is what is mostly unfair.
    Well stated pk. No matter how you look at it, all three of these women are stars. Carrie is the ultimate vocalist. Miranda may be average but she has had a few great songs. Great songs can take you a long way. And even though we dish Taylor, she has a huge following and that means a lot of people like her. That's all that matters. Each has success but in a different way. People have different tastes and this is an example of three singers that cover a broad spectrum. Music needs to be that way.

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    I liked this man's blog. It was short and to the point and then took the extra time to clarify his meaning and intent by posting in the comments section of his blog. Miranda for me is no different than Gretchen Wilson..they both express themes and actions in their songs that I personally don't find appealing and for the longest time radio wasn't all that crazy about Miranda's music either judging by her chart success. Then something happened. Oh yeah, it was that song THTBM, the one Miranda did not have a hand in writing... and it resonated with the public and voila, instant success..Miranda should write a song called, The Song That Brought Me Success. Despite all the accolades, all the promotion her star hasn't risen to the heights that the industry would like the public to believe. The industry's last two years of Miranda overindulgence hasn't seemed to change the public's view of Miranda as a star. Miranda's success on the charts and in sales hasn't been stellar comparative to A-list country stars..although it has impoved compared to her previous personal best. So I wonder how long the industry plans to keep up this ruse.

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    yeah I agree with these...sucks for carrie but ya!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pklongbeach View Post
    But I think the bloggers point is that each women is being somewhat pigion-holed and is not being judged clearly but being judged with an already established stereotype in place.
    You summed it up perfectly with this sentence.

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    This article is sadly true; in a way Miranda, Carrie, and Taylor have created these stereotypes that the media now uses to describe them. It sad that men can get away with murder, but the women are compared and held to different standards. All three of these women have shown exceptional ability, be it in different areas, but why aren't the men being criticized when most of them don't bring 1/4 of what these ladies bring to the table? It's absurd.

    It's irritating that Carrie is held to a higher standard, but it also seems to motivate her. In the case of Miranda and Taylor, the praise has done nothing but cause them to coast along and not strive to become better, IMO. In Taylor's case, the praise has caused her to coast, and become a weaker artist, instead of an average one. I think Carrie is well-aware of the perception she has among critics, and while much of that is outside of her control, she still tries as hard as she can to become better with each album. Let the critics praise anyone they want, but Carrie is one who will come out on top in my eyes, because she isn't to content to stay where she is & do the same thing over and over.


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    You do realize that the point of the article is that in his opinion, none of the current crop of female country singers (including Carrie, Miranda and Taylor) is nearly as good as Pam Tillis.

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    Well, Carrie likes Maybe It Was Memphis because she chose that song for Lauren to sing on AI and said she wanted to sing that song.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cary78663 View Post
    You do realize that the point of the article is that in his opinion, none of the current crop of female country singers (including Carrie, Miranda and Taylor) is nearly as good as Pam Tillis.
    Leave it to us to disreguard the meaning of the blog and focus on the comparison of the pop star and the two current country singers.
    Does anyone have the Pam Tillis youtube of this song?


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