Blown Away On The Mediabase Charts (Blown Away Era)

[cary78663]

Was Mamas Song a media base #1 too? And I edited her discography page to where she has 14 1s so it looks a little better

No, MS only got to #2 on Mediabase. All her other singles reached #1.

[pklongbeach]

I sure do love that song though. I can feel it easily from both places.
Actually the human aspect of it is even more meaningful to me.
Also, See You Again has become my favorite on the album at the moment.
Means so much to me now that I have lost my sister last month.

[carrieidol1]

This is the e-mail I'm sending, it's quite long, but gets the point across.



Hello,

My name is Kyle and I'm an avid chart follower, particularly in Country music. I see you changed your chart formula for Country music, and I must say I'm not pleased, here's why; Based on what I see, Pop airplay + Digital sales completely override Country radio airplay. Country airplay is the single most important component in Country music, and I believe, along with many others that it should be weighted accordingly in proportion to its importance.

Taylor Swift's "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" was generally not well accepted by the Country music community. Due to its initial "buzz" it skyrocketed into the top 20, but shortly thereafter plummeted, stalled, and then plummeted further into the 30s. It has since continued to lose airplay in Country music dramatically. Knowing this, I'm shocked to see it's the #1 Country song, even though it's currently receiving minuscule amounts of Country radio airplay, relative to its Pop airplay. This leads me to believe that in your new formula, Pop radio airplay and digital sales completely undermine COUNTRY radio airplay. In other words, it seems as if Country radio is only a minor component of your formula. In Taylor's case, her digital sales are fueled by her massive Pop radio airplay. How, in this case does her song represent Country music, if the popularity of her song is predominately a result of its Pop exposure, with hardly anything to do with Country music? Your chart suggests that "Never Ever" is a Country hit, when really it's a solely a Pop hit. Country music has little to do with the song's success.

Taylor's "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" is #1 on the Country chart based on its Pop airplay, and its sales generated by its Pop airplay. Country music has little to do with this song's success, yet, on your chart, it's the #1 Country song? Now if this song was successful in Country music in addition to Pop, I wouldn't have a problem. But the chart suggests that "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" is a Country music hit, regardless of the fact that it is hardly played on Country radio stations throughout the United States of America.

Now, Carrie Underwood's latest COUNTRY hit, "Blown Away" is currently receiving the most Country radio airplay, and thus receiving proportional digital sales to its general popularity. I believe your general "Billboard Hot 100" chart represents all genre's airplay, digital sales, and overall popularity. Why, then, are you making the Country chart represent essentially the same thing with a 'hint' of Country radio airplay? Again, I understand the inclusion of digital sales, but please be aware that Country radio's impact on digital sales does not match that of Pop's airplay. This disproportion in your revised Country chart is not accounted for, and needs to be to truly reflect Country music's general popularity. In other words, digital sales should not be weighted so heavily because they do not depict only Country airplay. Due to different audience numbers, digital sales disproportionally represent Pop airplay. Thus the formula should not only reflect digital sales, but also the disproportion that occurs because of the varying radio airplay across different formats.

Essentially, you're minimizing Country radio's importance. This is evident in the fact that Taylor holds the top two Country songs, with hardly any COUNTRY airplay for either. This is not fair, and does not represent Country music, and its core artists well. Popular acts like; Carrie Underwood, Jason Aldean, Luke Bryan, Kenny Chesney, Brad Paisley, Miranda Lambert, etc... Will struggle to EVER have #1 songs on this chart again because they do not reach the Pop audience as much, which apparently heavily influences the COUNTRY chart based on your new formula. Taylor's "Never Ever" is a Pop hit, not a Country hit, but is depicted as the #1 Country song based on it's Pop airplay and Pop generated digital sales. This makes no sense whatsoever as it is not at all supported by Country radio.

I'm not sure why you felt the need to "revise" the chart so drastically. It alienates most of Country music's core artists who simply do not appeal to the Pop audience to the degree that your formula suggests.

I send this with the utmost respect, but also with great concern for the genre of Country music. I believe your revision will greatly and detrimentally impact Country music negatively. This chart gives superior advantage to cross over artists, which in Country music are generally rare. Nowadays, the only true Country crossover artist is Taylor Swift, thus she'll be the only one to truly benefit from this change, as shown by her chart positions this week. The rest of Country's core artists will struggle to ever have #1s on this chart again, which isn't fair because they work hard to find and write worthy #1s, but they'll never reach that position as long as Country crossover acts are unfairly and disproportionally represented on this chart due to Pop airplay and sales that have little relation to Country music.

I think by this point I've made my point(s) and I hope I'm able to open your eyes to the seemingly blatant and purposeful injustice your revised chart has created. Again, I send this with the utmost respect for you, but with also great concern. I ask that you please consider changing, or re-revising your formula to account for the disproportion your current new formula fails to include. I thank you for reading this, and would greatly appreciate a response.


Best Regards,
Kyle Kleef

[pklongbeach]

Keep in mind you guys, all BB basically did was add an aditional chart.
#1 on airplay chart still counts as a #1.
It's just that now there is also another #1 to be had as well.
but most county singers will ever really have a strong shot at it as long as artists like Carrie Taylor LA are currently charting.
Cause they get so much more play outside of country.
And yes, that means Carrie to.

[opry051008]

^^ I thought that DFTRM peaked at #2 Mediabase also?

Anyway, I recognize that Taylor will be the biggest beneficiary of this Billboard change but I would be surprised if it was her team who influenced this change at Billboard. They have always manipulated the stats in their favor no matter what position Taylor ended up in on the charts, they hardly need her to be at #1.

The country music community was very quick to give accolades to "one of their own" when they elevated Taylor to the top. I think it's quite funny and fitting that now they have to accept that Red and Never Ever will be the #1 and #2 Country Songs. lol!

[cary78663]

^^ I thought that DFTRM peaked at #2 Mediabase also?

Anyway, I recognize that Taylor will be the biggest beneficiary of this Billboard change but I would be surprised if it was her team who influenced this change at Billboard. They have always manipulated the stats in their favor no matter what position Taylor ended up in on the charts, they hardly need her to be at #1.

The country music community was very quick to give accolades to "one of their own" when they elevated Taylor to the top. I think it's quite funny and fitting that now they have to accept that Red and Never Ever will be the #1 and #2 Country Songs. lol!

DFTRM reached #1 on Mediabase and #2 on Billboard. The same thing happened with ITYS. MS is the only single that peaked at #2 on both Mediabase and Billboard. All other single went to #1 on both charts.

[Oneal]

If Taylor didn't have a single out right now the chart would reflect Carrie at #1. Taylor will have periods of time where she doesn't have songs out. I am curious what this chart will look like then. Right now the next in line after Carrie to be #1 would be the Florida-Georgia Line song and not Lee Brice. This chart is going to help Artists that have really hot selling songs and might not be the household names. If they are in the 20's on the airplay chart but are outselling Artists in the top 10 on the airplay chart, they are going to be ranked higher. I actually think this is going to force Country Radio to play songs by people other than the A-listers

[The Nanook]

I could just see SWSRN pushing back her album to release more countdown singles so she can have a new song hit #1 every week for the next month and of course break Carrie's record of #1s from a single album. This chart is pure trash now.

Oh God, please no.

To me this is 100% worse than the CMAs snub Carrie received.

Definitely, because this is a long term thing... And it just had to happen now when BA is #1 (on airplay).


I can't believe Never Ever is getting #1 status after country radio had finally said enough and dropped her lead single; we all thought Borchetta/TS finally didn't get their way. But now it turns around and Taylor has two more top 2 songs and a #1 song to boot. when Taylor's album comes out, she will easily break whatever record Carrie had for most top 10 singles since their debut.

I was all for having another chart that factored in digital sales and streaming when I first heard about it (I don't remember anything about it including pop airplay), but I was under the impression that digital sales wouldn't factor in as much as it does now, and that it wouldn't be the chart that determines a #1 Country hit on BB. It'll be really interesting to see how this plays out a few months from now.

Weren't we just talking about how it'll be a long time before we see a country song sit at #1 for 6 weeks? It might just happen on this new chart.

[nccountrygal]

Oh God, please no.



Definitely, because this is a long term thing... And it just had to happen now when BA is #1 (on airplay).


I can't believe Never Ever is getting #1 status after country radio had finally said enough and dropped her lead single; we all thought Borchetta/TS finally didn't get their way. But now it turns around and Taylor has two more top 2 songs and a #1 song to boot. when Taylor's album comes out, she will easily break whatever record Carrie had for most top 10 singles since their debut.

I was all for having another chart that factored in digital sales and streaming when I first heard about it (I don't remember anything about it including pop airplay), but I was under the impression that digital sales wouldn't factor in as much as it does now, and that it wouldn't be the chart that determines a #1 Country hit on BB. It'll be really interesting to see how this plays out a few months from now.

Weren't we just talking about how it'll be a long time before we see a country song sit at #1 for 6 weeks? It might just happen on this new chart.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Taylor at no. 1 for about 3 months if not longer.

[gaycarebear]

Is the old chart going away? Or are there going to be two charts? this sounds confusing.

It's my understanding that there are now 2 charts. The Top Country Songs chart is the one that is changing to include multi-format radio play, digital downloads and streaming.

The Country Airplay chart is now the old Top Country Songs chart, that just includes Country radio airplay w/o all the other mumbo jumbo

[nccountrygal]

Is the old chart going away? Or are there going to be two charts? this sounds confusing.

They are still going to report the country airplay chart which Carrie should be no. 1 on next week as Cary mentioned. However, if you go to Billboard right now the only chart I see is the Billboard Country songs chart and that one is the one that Taylor is currently no. 1 and no. 2 on with her Never Ever Song which is at no. 1 and Red which is at no. 2. Never Ever is out of the top 30 based on country airplay and Red is not to my knowledge getting any country airplay at all. So based on this chart Taylor has the most popular country songs of the week sitting at both the no. 1 and no. 2 positions.

[nccountrygal]

It's my understanding that there are now 2 charts. The Top Country Songs chart is the one that is changing to include multi-format radio play, digital downloads and streaming.

The Country Airplay chart is now the old Top Country Songs chart, that just includes Country radio airplay w/o all the other mumbo jumbo

Where is the Country Airplay chart posted? See my post above as I went to Billboard.com and I only see the Country Songs chart.

[gaycarebear]

Where is the Country Airplay chart posted? See my post above as I went to Billboard.com and I only see the Country Songs chart.

Based on the Billboard article, the Airplay chart will continue to be posted every Monday. The new revamped chart will be posted in print and mid-week on their site.

[gaycarebear]

I don't understand why they would change it to this format. it really doesn't benefit anybody but one person lol

Pretty much. There's obviously some back-room dirty politics going on, imo.

[bigbluegrl23]

Man, the creators of hannah montana and every single disney star, who sells more singles but go nowhere on radio, WILL BE PISSED. they missed their mark. How is taylor swift considered a legit artist? will someone please tell me? hahahaha
Becca

[gaycarebear]

Man, the creators of hannah montana and every single disney star, who sells more singles but go nowhere on radio, WILL BE PISSED. they missed their mark. How is taylor swift considered a legit artist? will someone please tell me? hahahaha
Becca

If you ever find out that answer to that, please let me know

[Manchs]

If anyone wants to see, I edited Carrie's discography page on Wikipedia. Always putting the more reliable chart first

Carrie Underwood discography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[carrieidol1]

I say we make Mediabase the new official chart, they've always been more fair anyway!

[maddkat]

Where is the Country Airplay chart posted? See my post above as I went to Billboard.com and I only see the Country Songs chart.

Music Charts, Most Popular Music, Music by Genre & Top Music Charts | Billboard

[cyndi_sink]

Oh , now it is all coming in so clearly. The next song after Begin Again was said to be More Pop than any others. Ms swift and her AUTO TUNE has reared up their Greedy Heads and said No More, I WILL REIGN, I WILL BE ON TOP, AND I WILL PUSH ANYONE TO THE SIDE THAT GETS IN MY WAY! Not a very pretty COUNTRY ATTITUDE is it ? Sad to say, it isn't only Our Carrie, it is all the country singers who have got great songs out there,for what ONLY TO LISTEN TO MS SWIFT AUTO TUNE?MY RADIO STATION won.t even play WANEGBT,I DON't listen to her and I never EVER WILL. What A JOKE!!!