Idols sales - 3/14/12

[sam_vzla]

It may happen if the price of PO is sold at where Lady A's "Own The Night" sold at on GooglePlay and Amazon last week...

get this: This digital CD sold for TWENTY-FIVE CENTS! Sold 99,000 copies last week. And because there is no rule against an "older" CD selling at whatever price to count as sales, this 99k counts toward its total sales. Geez, this is a new low...

I look at the math:

100,000 albums at 25 cents = 25,000$

1000 albums at what? 12$? = 12,000$

So they sold 100 times more but only made 13,000$ more.

I'll keep my 1000 copies

[teesharky]

yeah but they want the hype and the more sales you get, the more awards you win for some shows. Ie- Billboards, AMAs, etc.

[clh_hilary]

The 66k in sales for GG last week is still excellent when compared to Carrie's previous tracks. Did you know that JTTW never sold more than 60k in a single week? and that BHC only sold more 66k in a week once (that was 96k during a Christmas week)?

After the GG release, there really has not been any substantial promotion corresponding to this sales week. Now with the GG video out, the rise in sales as seen on the iTunes chart is a good measure of the sales increase. So, if it was 0.18 of the #1 track (WAY), and now it's say 0.23... then that is about a 25% increase. An early guess for this week's sales is 90k which puts GG reaching Gold status in just a few weeks!

You cannot compare the sales of "Good Girl" to either "Jesus Take The Wheel" or "Before He Cheats". The market size was notably different. Back in 2005, a song that sold 30k copies could be #1 on Hot Digital Songs. Digital sales didn't quite take off before 2007 when songs like Rihanna's "Umbrella" (Featuring Jay-Z) and Shakira's "Hips Don't Lie" open close to 300k copies each.

ITA. The week Carrie performs GG on AI, sales will be >100,000.

It is very hard to make that a guarantee. Carrie performed a lot of songs on American Idol and very few of them sold 100k copies + for that week.

I believe "Undo It" sold 69k copies 'only' that week, and it was also its highest-selling week overall.

"Change" sold 9117 copies after being performed on Idol Gives Back, combining both versions. It was its second-highest sales week after the release week of "Play On".

"I Told You So" (Featuring Randy Travis) was one that sold over 100k copies after an AI performance, it sold 125806 copies that week. But it was also a technically 'new' Carrie single on sale that week, and it has two versions combined for its sales.

"Home Sweet Home" sold 112170 copies the first week, when it was also played on AI for the very first time. After Carrie performed it, it sold 'only' 32812 copies.

"Last Name" sold 64143 copies after being performed on both AI and the ACMs. It was also its highest-sales week.

"Praying For Time" sold 65635 copies the first week out, after Idol Gives Back.

"I'll Stand By You" sold 124496 copies the first week after the music video premiered on the first Idol Gives Back and her performing on AI. But it's on the height of "Some Hearts" / "Before He Cheats" and was like a new Carrie single.

"Don't Forget To Remember Me" was also performed and it seemed it only sold 8466 copies that week.

Considering everything, the chances for GG to sell over 100k copies when being performed on AI is low unless it crosses over in time by then.

It may happen if the price of PO is sold at where Lady A's "Own The Night" sold at on GooglePlay and Amazon last week...

get this: This digital CD sold for TWENTY-FIVE CENTS! Sold 99,000 copies last week. And because there is no rule against an "older" CD selling at whatever price to count as sales, this 99k counts toward its total sales. Geez, this is a new low...

They blocked Luke Bryan's EP from debuting #1 after this was done. But it was Google and Amazon's doing, and was irrelevant to Lady Antebellum. Lady A and their team / label didn't do anything to cause that happen. Mary J. Blige and Rihanna actually got sold at $0.99 by Google during their album debut week and hurt their first-week sales because they aren't eligible to be counted in the first 4 weeks of any album.

That is some BS right there. Taylor will be on it like a fly on S***. Sickening.

When she put both "Fearless" and "Speak Now" on sale at $3.99 on Amazon, both didn't make that big of an impact there. And since they can only do it after the first 4 weeks of an album, unless they're doing it during the holiday season, they won't have too big of an impact.

I look at the math:

100,000 albums at 25 cents = 25,000$

1000 albums at what? 12$? = 12,000$

So they sold 100 times more but only made 13,000$ more.

I'll keep my 1000 copies

The real math is, Google and Amazon paying the FULL PRICE to the labels and artists they got their albums discounted, and customers paying 25 cents to Google and Amazon. Same goes to Lady GaGa's "Born This Way" $0.99 scenario. Amazon paid the full price to Interscope and Gaga.

I'll keep my 10000 copies.

yeah but they want the hype and the more sales you get, the more awards you win for some shows. Ie- Billboards, AMAs, etc.

It's not like there's an extra million added to their total. The impact is minimal at best unless it got them to go #1 for another week.

[opry051008]

For those who are disappointed, you are probably only looking at it from the perspective of how well GG sold in it's first 2 weeks. Carrie has never been a front loaded artist, so to give some perspective we'll use her lead off single from PO. CC has so far sold 1,775,130. Here are CC's sales in it's first few weeks:

week 1 - 110,236
week 2 - 65,816
week 3 - 53,687
week 4 - 56,723
week 5 - 43,727
week 6 - 38,459

Based on how well GG is doing right now, next week it should be around the same sales #'s that took CC 6 weeks to reach.

What you should take from this is not that GG dropped 44%, but that there was either such a demand for new music from Carrie or how much people love the song, or both. Anyway's my point is... it's a good thing no matter how you look at it.

[clh_hilary]

We just have to always remember that Carrie is a Country artist, not a Pop artist. And ever if you compare her with the standard Pop artist like someone like Jason DeRulo ("Don't Wanna Go Home"), Kelly Clarkson ("Mr. Know It All"), Avril Lavgine ("What The Hell"), Britney Spears ("Hold It Against Me"), Beyonce ("Run The World (Girls)"), Jessie J. ("Domino") or even some of the singles of the 'unusual' ones like Lady GaGa ("Judas"), Katy Perry ("Part of Me"), Taylor Swift's ("Mine", "Back To December" and "Mean" after their first weeks), Rihanna ("You Da One"), Madonna ("Give Me All Your Luvin'" featuring Nicki Minaj & M.I.A.) she's STILL doing pretty well overall.

Usually songs stay in the Top 10 forever are novelty songs from novelty acts, i.e. LMFAO's "Party Rock Anthem" & "Sexy and I Know It"; Fun.'s "We Are Young". Or the new IT girls like ADELE ("Rolling In The Deep", "Someone Like You", "Set Fire To The Rain") and Katy Perry ("California Gurls" featuring Snoop Dogg, "Teenage Dream", "Firework", "E.T." featuring Kanye West, "Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.)"). 99% of established Pop stars drop hard after their initial weeks, only to come harder afterwards. Case in point: Rihanna ("We Found Love" featuring Calvin Harris).

[thunder92]

I think GG could easily pass 100k for a week if performed on Idol...the difference from her other performances is that this is a brand new song off her highly anticipated 4th album...and well...it just is rockin lol.

And if it is performed on a week where it is just her performing and not at the finale...it will be even higher.

[teesharky]

I have to say i am impressed with kelly clarksons stronger sales! She has been in the top 10 on itunes for like a month.

[opry051008]

I have to say i am impressed with kelly clarksons stronger sales! She has been in the top 10 on itunes for like a month.

Problem for Kelly is that she sells singles but not albums. She will need at least another big single off her album to make sure she crosses the platinum mark in the US.

[carebear4eva]

Problem for Kelly is that she sells singles but not albums. She will need at least another big single off her album to make sure she crosses the platinum mark in the US.

That's not a Kelly Clarkson thing, that's a pop music thing.

[opry051008]

That's not a Kelly Clarkson thing, that's a pop music thing.

I was thinking Rihanna, Katy Perry level who sell well for singles and albums. Since Stronger has done sooooooo well I thought it were increase her album sales too.

[clh_hilary]

I think GG could easily pass 100k for a week if performed on Idol...the difference from her other performances is that this is a brand new song off her highly anticipated 4th album...and well...it just is rockin lol.

And if it is performed on a week where it is just her performing and not at the finale...it will be even higher.

But for "Home Sweet Home", "I Told You So" and "I'll Stand By You", all of them were actually released that week. By the time she performs it on Idol it could be a month or two after the song got released. Not to mention Idol's impact has waned off much throughout the years already. If GG is selling around 80k copies a week by then I'd say it'd go over 6-digit, but if it's selling fewer copies weekly then no.


The problem with the sales of "Stronger" (the album) to "Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You)" is, WDKY is the only song that's even remotely in line with today's trend -- Electro-dance-pop tune with a big catchy chorus. Other songs on the albums are all notably different from WDKY in style. And "Mr. Know It All" apparently wasn't big enough a hit to move many album copies.