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07-21-2008, 02:39 PM
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Mikel
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 Frankly, this astonishes me...If I might offer an alternative thought...I'm persuaded we've been venting our frustration at the wrong target...The target, IMO, is NOT Taylor...It is her MANAGEMENT! Over my 50 years hanging out on this ole world, I hope I've learned some truths...One of the most true is this...ALWAYS Follow The Money!!!!! I'm convinced her management is out to cash in, all they can, as much as they can, while they can...Remix & remarket it 15 times if necessary as long as the kiddos are willing to buy it...Please let me be clear...This is not, IMO, about Ms Swift, as much as it is about her greedy management...I would not be surprised if another young girl comes along...If that girl gets hot, hear me now, believe me later, Taylor could well get dropped like a bad habit...The brutal nature of the music business...& that could be a bad thing...Even a Hardcore like Tee has said, I believe, that Taylor has songwriting skills, that potentially could get better with age & maturity...
BOTTOM LINE...
Just offering some thoughts up there...Bash & crash as you like...In contrast, Carrie is on track for Long Term & Guaranteed!! I'm good...Hope you are too...
We return you now to the regular HDD Thread 
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07-21-2008, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SJSoule
I suspect that they're accidentally combining the sales for both of Taylor's albums. There's no way that sales would drop off so drastically that she'd disappear from the top fifty completely.
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Let me repost my original statement again. Read it closely. I said I suspect they accidentally combined them. HDD has been known to do that on occasion. I believe they did it when the last Sugarland album came out. But before the tally was done, they figured out their mistake and fixed it.
I never suggested that her label did it on purpose, or that Billboard would combine them. I don't see any possible way that these two CDs could be considered the same album on purpose. They're too different.
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07-21-2008, 02:47 PM
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Guys-- is Carrie's update good so far? I just don't want her to go down anymore this week. Please let her stabilize or maybe even increase a percentage or two. 
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07-21-2008, 02:47 PM
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CHART DATE: 07/21/2008
LAST UPDATE: 07/21/2008 12:45:48
NOW IN: 39.09%
LW TW artist / album label power index
-- 1 NAS DEF JAM/COLUMBIA 70,915
NAS
5 2 KID ROCK ATLANTIC 42,388
ROCK N ROLL JESUS
-- 3 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 32,057
BEAUTIFUL EYES
1 4 LIL WAYNE CASH MONEY/UNIVERSAL MOT 31,644
THA CARTER III
8 5 MAMMA MIA! DECCA 29,259
SOUNDTRACK
2 6 COLDPLAY CAPITOL 28,961
VIVA LA VIDA
3 7 CAMP ROCK WALT DISNEY RECORDS 28,735
SOUNDTRACK
7 8 NOW 28 CAPITOL 25,961
VARIOUS ARTISTS
17 9 JOURNEY FRONTIERS 23,560
REVELATION
-- 10 DAVID BANNER SRC/UNIVERSAL MOTOWN 22,957
GREATEST STORY EVER TOLD
6 11 RIHANNA DEF JAM/IDJMG 21,498
GOOD GIRL GONE BAD
-- 12 JOHN MELLENCAMP HEAR MUSIC 17,805
LIFE DEATH LOVE & FREEDOM
10 13 USHER LAFACE/ZLG 13,462
HERE I STAND
11 14 KATY PERRY CAPITOL 12,713
ONE OF THE BOYS
15 15 LEONA LEWIS J RECORDS/RMG 11,884
SPIRIT
14 16 DISTURBED REPRISE 11,688
INDESTRUCTIBLE
19 17 3 DOORS DOWN UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 9,442
3 DOORS DOWN
22 18 TOBY KEITH UME/SHOW DOG 9,356
35 BIGGEST HITS
36 19 ALAN JACKSON ARISTA NASHVILLE 8,544
GOOD TIME
38 20 KENNY CHESNEY BNA/SBMG NASHVILLE 8,332
JUST WHO I AM: POETS & PIRATES
-- 21 GARTH BROOKS PEARL RECORDS 7,409
ULTIMATE HITS
9 22 G-UNIT INTERSCOPE 7,240
T.O.S. (TERMINATE ON SIGHT)
-- 23 O.A.R. EVERFINE/ATLANTIC 7,181
ALL SIDES
33 24 MARVIN SAPP VERITY 7,149
THIRSTY
35 25 CARRIE UNDERWOOD ARISTA/RMG 7,042
CARNIVAL RIDE
26 26 SHINEDOWN ATLANTIC 6,954
SOUND OF MADNESS
32 27 NATASHA BEDINGFIELD EPIC 6,855
POCKETFUL OF SUNSHINE
37 28 SUGARLAND MERCURY NASHVILLE 6,841
ENJOY THE RIDE
20 29 MOTLEY CRUE ELEVEN SEVEN MUSIC/MOTLEY 6,705
SAINTS OF LOS ANGELES
21 30 DUFFY MERCURY 6,391
ROCKFERRY
-- 31 RANDY TRAVIS CURB/WARNER BROTHERS 5,996
AROUND THE BEND
23 32 JONAS BROTHERS HOLLYWOOD 5,665
JONAS BROTHERS
16 33 PLIES SLIP-N-SLIDE 5,575
DEFINITION OF REAL
-- 34 TOTAL CLUB HITS THRIVE 5,469
THRIVEMIX (VARIOUS ARTISTS)
27 35 CHRIS BROWN JIVE/ZLG 5,454
EXCLUSIVE
12 36 JOHN MAYER COLUMBIA 5,359
WHERE THE LIGHT IS: LIVE IN L.A.
-- 37 GEORGE STRAIT MCA NASHVILLE 5,269
TROUBADOUR
4 38 BECK DGC/INTERSCOPE 4,779
MODERN GUILT
41 39 METRO STATION COLUMBIA 4,706
METRO STATION
-- 40 DARK KNIGHT WARNER BROS. 4,385
SOUNDTRACK
42 41 COLBIE CAILLAT UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 4,033
COCO
-- 42 JULIANNE HOUGH MERCURY NASHVILLE 3,852
JULIANNE HOUGH
30 43 MARIAH CAREY ISLAND/IDJMG 3,834
E=MC2
-- 44 ASHANTI UNIVERSAL MOTOWN 3,808
DECLARATION
-- 45 JEWEL BIG MACHINE 3,744
PERFECTLY CLEAR
-- 46 HOLD STEADY VAGRANT 3,729
STAY POSITIVE
18 47 THREE 6 MAFIA COLUMBIA 3,698
LAST 2 WALK
-- 48 NOW 27 SBMG/COMMERICAL MUSIC GRP 3,513
VARIOUS ARTISTS
-- 49 LINKIN PARK WARNER BROS. 3,434
MINUTES TO MIDNIGHT
-- 50 DAUGHTRY RCA/RMG 3,382
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07-21-2008, 02:58 PM
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NOW IN: 53.53%
LW TW artist / album label power index
-- 1 NAS DEF JAM/COLUMBIA 98,186
NAS
2 2 COLDPLAY CAPITOL 51,595
VIVA LA VIDA
8 3 MAMMA MIA! DECCA 45,201
SOUNDTRACK
5 4 KID ROCK ATLANTIC 42,388
ROCK N ROLL JESUS
1 5 LIL WAYNE CASH MONEY/UNIVERSAL MOT 39,913
THA CARTER III
3 6 CAMP ROCK WALT DISNEY RECORDS 34,958
SOUNDTRACK
-- 7 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 32,057
BEAUTIFUL EYES
-- 8 DAVID BANNER SRC/UNIVERSAL MOTOWN 27,121
GREATEST STORY EVER TOLD
7 9 NOW 28 CAPITOL 26,430
VARIOUS ARTISTS
6 10 RIHANNA DEF JAM/IDJMG 25,394
GOOD GIRL GONE BAD
-- 11 JOHN MELLENCAMP HEAR MUSIC 23,600
LIFE DEATH LOVE & FREEDOM
17 12 JOURNEY FRONTIERS 23,560
REVELATION
11 13 KATY PERRY CAPITOL 17,297
ONE OF THE BOYS
-- 14 O.A.R. EVERFINE/ATLANTIC 16,433
ALL SIDES
-- 15 DARK KNIGHT WARNER BROS. 15,256
SOUNDTRACK
10 16 USHER LAFACE/ZLG 14,425
HERE I STAND
15 17 LEONA LEWIS J RECORDS/RMG 13,519
SPIRIT
14 18 DISTURBED REPRISE 13,510
INDESTRUCTIBLE
12 19 JOHN MAYER COLUMBIA 11,582
WHERE THE LIGHT IS: LIVE IN L.A.
19 20 3 DOORS DOWN UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 11,375
3 DOORS DOWN
4 21 BECK DGC/INTERSCOPE 10,816
MODERN GUILT
22 22 TOBY KEITH UME/SHOW DOG 9,963
35 BIGGEST HITS
38 23 KENNY CHESNEY BNA/SBMG NASHVILLE 9,084
JUST WHO I AM: POETS & PIRATES
21 24 DUFFY MERCURY 8,802
ROCKFERRY
36 25 ALAN JACKSON ARISTA NASHVILLE 8,544
GOOD TIME
9 26 G-UNIT INTERSCOPE 8,318
T.O.S. (TERMINATE ON SIGHT)
35 27 CARRIE UNDERWOOD ARISTA/RMG 8,238
CARNIVAL RIDE
32 28 NATASHA BEDINGFIELD EPIC 8,204
POCKETFUL OF SUNSHINE
26 29 SHINEDOWN ATLANTIC 8,107
SOUND OF MADNESS
23 30 JONAS BROTHERS HOLLYWOOD 8,098
JONAS BROTHERS
20 31 MOTLEY CRUE ELEVEN SEVEN MUSIC/MOTLEY 7,484
SAINTS OF LOS ANGELES
-- 32 GARTH BROOKS PEARL RECORDS 7,409
ULTIMATE HITS
37 33 SUGARLAND MERCURY NASHVILLE 7,388
ENJOY THE RIDE
33 34 MARVIN SAPP VERITY 7,149
THIRSTY
-- 35 RANDY TRAVIS CURB/WARNER BROTHERS 7,129
AROUND THE BEND
41 36 METRO STATION COLUMBIA 6,982
METRO STATION
27 37 CHRIS BROWN JIVE/ZLG 6,178
EXCLUSIVE
-- 38 HOLD STEADY VAGRANT 5,600
STAY POSITIVE
16 39 PLIES SLIP-N-SLIDE 5,575
DEFINITION OF REAL
42 40 COLBIE CAILLAT UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 5,553
COCO
-- 41 TOTAL CLUB HITS THRIVE 5,469
THRIVEMIX (VARIOUS ARTISTS)
-- 42 GEORGE STRAIT MCA NASHVILLE 5,269
TROUBADOUR
47 43 FLOBOTS UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 4,915
FIGHT WITH TOOLS
28 44 JASON MRAZ ATLANTIC 4,511
WE SING WE DANCE WE STEAL THINGS
18 45 THREE 6 MAFIA COLUMBIA 4,503
LAST 2 WALK
30 46 MARIAH CAREY ISLAND/IDJMG 4,429
E=MC2
13 47 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 4,324
TAYLOR SWIFT
-- 48 JEWEL BIG MACHINE 4,257
PERFECTLY CLEAR
-- 49 LINKIN PARK WARNER BROS. 4,250
MINUTES TO MIDNIGHT
-- 50 DAUGHTRY RCA/RMG 4,244
DAUGHTRY
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07-21-2008, 02:59 PM
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If you notice, Taylors Debut album is now on the chart at 4,000 something
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07-21-2008, 03:12 PM
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^^^True.....it's going to be her loyal fans that will buy her new stuff in droves on it's first weeks. Just surprise that her old stuff dropped so low when just last week it was so high and in the #1 country spot. Looks like all her fans are switching over from buying her old to her new material??? Very confusing update.
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07-21-2008, 03:13 PM
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Thanks for the update!
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07-21-2008, 03:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by teesharky
Guys-- is Carrie's update good so far? I just don't want her to go down anymore this week. Please let her stabilize or maybe even increase a percentage or two. 
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Based on the chart from 2 weeks ago she's at about 13.2K which would be an increase from last week.
Taylor's sales still don't make sense. I can't see her debut album falling down that much just because there is a new release. There still may be some combining of numbers with her debut album.
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07-21-2008, 03:22 PM
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In light of the all the Taylor Swift talk, maybe we should not forget that in addition to Carrie's original CR album, she also released the Target special DVD edition and the Music Pass edition with the one extra song Sometimes You Leave.....and I'm sure I'm not the only one that bought all three, lol.
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07-21-2008, 03:22 PM
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I hope you are right and the HDD gets this TS stuff straighten out cause it doesn't make sense. Hopefully they can separate her two album sales out correctly. Either that or her fanbase just has great communication w/ each other to stop buying the old album and buy the other one instead.
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07-21-2008, 03:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maryleepj
In light of the all the Taylor Swift talk, maybe we should not forget that in addition to Carrie's original CR album, she also released the Target special DVD edition and the Music Pass edition with the one extra song Sometimes You Leave.....and I'm sure I'm not the only one that bought all three, lol.
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True but I'm just surprised her old album just dropped so low from last week even w/ the special release. One shouldn't drop that low just b/c of a new special release. Maybe the other half of HDD update will give us a better analysis.
If I remember correctly when the CR Target special DVD edition came out both the Target special and the original CR album were selling fairly well. The original CR album didn't drop very dramatically just b/c the Target version came out.
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07-21-2008, 03:36 PM
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I think the DVD and CD of CR were released the same day and were counted together...
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07-21-2008, 03:38 PM
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Is this a new album for Taylor Swift??? Or just one with the original songs re-mixed | |