Is SH reccurent???

carrieidol1 · 07-03-2008, 11:32 AM

We all know that for the first time, SH fell below the top half of the BB200; falling to #105. Yet SH remains on the chart even though according to the rules it should have been moved to catalog. It was discovered yesterday that SH is not the only album over 78 weeks old, and below #100. Buckcherry's album is also under #100 with over 78 weeks. Both albums have recurrent singles though SH-BHC, Buckcherry-Sorry. We are discussing at Pulse wether the rule of having an active single applies to both recurrent/current charts or just current charts. As it appears though, it doesn't matter what type of chart, as long as there is an active single on any chart...the album will stay no matter age or position. If this were true it would mean many more weeks for SH on the BB200 seeing as how BHC rests comfortably in the mid-teens on the pop recurrent singles chart. Someone from pulse emailed BB to see if it is a mistake, or the "active single theory" stands.

Untill we find out, SH only decreased 2 copies in sales this week to a rounded 7,000 copies, and CR sold just about double that.

robinannhunt · 07-03-2008, 11:39 AM

I hope we find out about this. Kepp us updated.

wickeddennis · 07-03-2008, 11:50 AM

Interesting!!! Looking forward to an update!! Thanks

carries1gurl · 07-03-2008, 11:55 AM

yeah keep us updated!

clh_hilary · 07-04-2008, 01:15 AM

If it was a mistake, I hope they will never get corrected

cary78663 · 07-05-2008, 03:15 PM

Ok, I checked out the charts and here is what I found.

There are currently 5 albums that are below #100 and have more than 78 weeks on the chart. They are:

#105 Carrie - Some Hearts
#115 Buckcherry - 15
#116 Fergie - The Dutchess
#120 Three Days Grace - One-X
#168 Rodney Atkins - If You're Going Throguh Hell

Now there has been clear indications that an active climbing single from the album will keep that album on the Billboard 200 after 78 week regardless of position. Of these 5 albums, only Rodney Atkin's album meets that requirement as Invisibly Shaken is currently climbing on the Country chart. So there is no question why that album remains on the Billboard 200.

Buckcherry's Sorry is currently on the Adult Top 40 chart, but it peaked back in late March/early April at #2 and is currently at #13. So it does not seem to qualify.

None of the other 3 albums have a currently active single on any of the various genre-specific airplay charts. However, all 3 have a song on one of the genre-specific recurrent charts.

However, there is a common factor for all 4 albums in question. A song from each album current appears on the Hot 100 Recurrent Airplay chart. They are:

#8 Big Girls Don't Cry (Fergie - The Dutchess)
#11 Never Too Late (Three Days Grace - One-X)
#12 Sorry (Buckcherry - 15)
#14 Before He Cheats (Carrie - Some Hearts)

Based on this, if Some Hearts in fact should have been removed from the Billboard 200, there are at least 2 other albums and maybe 3 that should also be removed. It does seem strange that there would be multiple similar errors on the chart. So there is at least a chance that this is not a mistake and they consider all the recurrent charts or at least the Hot 100 Recurrent Airplay chart.

gretch · 07-05-2008, 03:42 PM

Some Heart's longevity never ceases to amaze me, wow! Thanks for doing all that research

JonasBrotherFanx16 · 07-05-2008, 04:12 PM

intersting!
can't wait for the update

carrieidol1 · 07-06-2008, 11:19 AM

thanks, cary! I hope you are right. If that was the case whcih seemingly it is, then SH should have many more weeks to come on the BB200.

SJSoule · 07-07-2008, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by cary78663

Ok, I checked out the charts and here is what I found.

There are currently 5 albums that are below #100 and have more than 78 weeks on the chart. They are:

#105 Carrie - Some Hearts
#115 Buckcherry - 15
#116 Fergie - The Dutchess
#120 Three Days Grace - One-X
#168 Rodney Atkins - If You're Going Throguh Hell

Now there has been clear indications that an active climbing single from the album will keep that album on the Billboard 200 after 78 week regardless of position. Of these 5 albums, only Rodney Atkin's album meets that requirement as Invisibly Shaken is currently climbing on the Country chart. So there is no question why that album remains on the Billboard 200.

Buckcherry's Sorry is currently on the Adult Top 40 chart, but it peaked back in late March/early April at #2 and is currently at #13. So it does not seem to qualify.

None of the other 3 albums have a currently active single on any of the various genre-specific airplay charts. However, all 3 have a song on one of the genre-specific recurrent charts.

However, there is a common factor for all 4 albums in question. A song from each album current appears on the Hot 100 Recurrent Airplay chart. They are:

#8 Big Girls Don't Cry (Fergie - The Dutchess)
#11 Never Too Late (Three Days Grace - One-X)
#12 Sorry (Buckcherry - 15)
#14 Before He Cheats (Carrie - Some Hearts)

Based on this, if Some Hearts in fact should have been removed from the Billboard 200, there are at least 2 other albums and maybe 3 that should also be removed. It does seem strange that there would be multiple similar errors on the chart. So there is at least a chance that this is not a mistake and they consider all the recurrent charts or at least the Hot 100 Recurrent Airplay chart.

Cary, I just discovered that BHC is still active on the Hot Ringtone chart. Would that be what's keeping SH alive? And, if so, then that might explain the other albums you listed as well. I know Crazy B1tch by Buckcherry is also on that list.