HDD Sales Projection for Carnival Ride (week 28) - Page 4

gwade82 · 05-06-2008, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by robinannhunt

If sony is making money off carrie's tour then CD sales are probably the lesser of the dollar sources to be promoted. Tour money is where the big dollars are made. She is a song writing, guitar playing, headliner who sells more Cds than most Sony artists too boot. All of her songs go to #1 on radio so she gets good press from that. She gets to be a member of the Opry and gets press from that. She wins awards and get press from that. Her shows are sellout. etc... Whats wrong with this picture? I don't see it.

Still eloquent I see.

ZIG · 05-06-2008, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by robinannhunt

If sony is making money off carrie's tour then CD sales are probably the lesser of the dollar sources to be promoted. Tour money is where the big dollars are made. She is a song writing, guitar playing, headliner who sells more Cds than most Sony artists too boot. All of her songs go to #1 on radio so she gets good press from that. She gets to be a member of the Opry and gets press from that. She wins awards and get press from that. Her shows are sellout. etc... Whats wrong with this picture? I don't see it.

If Carrie gets so many good press, then I am wondering why her sales are not that strong. Maybe TS gets better press?

robinannhunt · 05-06-2008, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ZIG

If Carrie gets so many good press, then I am wondering why her sales are not that strong. Maybe TS gets better press?

Didn't someone say that the first 2 milion of country CD sales are to country fans and the rest is gravy from non-country fans. This may be happening to our girl since this CD is more country.

TS is selling to pop fans now, and also she is reselling to country and pop fans and then reselling to country and pop fans. Etc, etc, etc....

More power to her.

We live in a land of infinite opportunity.

Jeff734 · 05-06-2008, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by robinannhunt

Didn't someone say that the first 2 milion of country CD sales are to country fans and the rest is gravy from non-country fans. This may be happening to our girl since this CD is more country.

TS is selling to pop fans now, and also she is reselling to country and pop fans and then reselling to country and pop fans. Etc, etc, etc....

More power to her.

We live in a land of infinite opportunity.

yes, i think you are right. look at kenny chesney, keith urban, brad paisley... the biggest touring acts in country today. and look at their sales. successful tours dont equate to mega sales too... those who go to the concert probably own the album already, and are pretty big fans, thats why they go. i dont think people attend a concert without having bought the artists latest CD.

jptexas · 05-06-2008, 10:18 AM

If Carrie want to sell more cds, and that's a good question in itself, she'll have to have a crossover song like Taylor. Markets are tapped out now. She needs to somehow get LN to crossover either by itself or have the label do some promo work in that genre. With the success of her tours so far, her cd sales are not indicative of her ability to sellout concert seats. Of course, that's if you consider selling over 2 million cds in just over 6 months a negative thing. I don't. She's doing just fine IMO.

judes · 05-06-2008, 10:35 AM

Take a look at the most viewed country videos at AOL - I think most of Taylors following are not country fans, , however whatever fans she gets Carrie will prob get some of those just as there are Carrie fans who became TS fans

comolaamapolaflor5285 · 05-06-2008, 10:38 AM

I agree with you jptexas over 2,000,000 copies in six months is great in these bad economic times and without a crossover hit released from the album yet but if LN crosses over and then the next single does so as well she'll be racking in the sales and re-sales in some cases and don't forget she's selling 2 albums not one so she's doing fantastic

cary78663 · 05-06-2008, 11:42 AM

Saw this on HDD. There are some interestign stats regarding music sales.

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NARM REPORT PART I: HITS’ Mark Pearson reports from S.F.: Nielsen Soundscan hosted a seminar on industry sales analysis and the results were predictable. Physical sales are down while digital sales are up. One of every four releases sells less than 100 copies. So the top of the chart continues to rule, but not quite as much as in past years. Historically, the Top 200 accounted for some 35% of the total music sales, where as in ’07 that number went down to 25%. Tracking the rise in music sales since Soundscan started in ’91 until ’01, we have now given back all of those gains with sales now at ’96 levels. American Idol and Disney Channel titles are doing better than anyone else over the last two years (knock us over with a feather). Video games continue to cut into music sales and non-trad sales are up significantly, but vinyl sales are through the roof, with ’07 the best vinyl year since ’91 (coming mostly from the indie retail sector). Four million tracks sold at least one copy, whereas 1 million tracks sold ONLY one copy. And ringtone sales continue to be healthy even though the market is flattening. (5/5p)

jatale · 05-06-2008, 12:44 PM

Yeah for vinyl! My poor turntable has been quiet for too long, I must go and exercise it a bit. All my vinyl records (and I have a bunch of them) must feel abandoned since I converted over to CDs many years ago, but I still have many treasured vinyl records that I really should give a spin.

Traditionally, record labels do not share in touring revenue, that is where most artists make the bulk of their income. With CD sales disappearing, there has been talk of the record companies trying to become a bigger part of their artist's careers so that they can get a share of touring revenue. I have no idea of this is going to happen in the future or not, but for now I think touring revenue goes primarily to the artist.

comolaamapolaflor5285 · 05-06-2008, 02:35 PM

not artists that write their own songs and produce their own records and have other things like clothing lines beauty lines and other things like that and don't tour off every album

carrieidol1 · 05-06-2008, 03:09 PM

no update yet???

pandy · 05-06-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by carrieidol1

no update yet???

I was thinking the same thing.

cowman · 05-06-2008, 03:48 PM

Looks like they have sludge in the engine again.

cary78663 · 05-06-2008, 04:08 PM

CHART DATE: 05/05/2008
LAST UPDATE: 05/06/2008 13:57:07
NOW IN: FINAL

LW TW artist / album label power index % change
-- 1 MADONNA WARNER BROS. 282,785 --
HARD CANDY
1 2 MARIAH CAREY ISLAND/IDJMG 87,068 -51%
E=MC2
2 3 LEONA LEWIS J RECORDS/RMG 81,803 -17%
SPIRIT
-- 4 LYFE JENNINGS COLUMBIA 76,332 --
LYFE CHANGE
-- 5 ROOTS DEF JAM/IDJMG 54,710 --
RISING DOWN
-- 6 DEF LEPPARD ISLAND/IDJMG 54,402 --
SONGS FROM THE SPARKLE LOUNGE
-- 7 PORTISHEAD ISLAND/IDJMG 44,894 --
THIRD
5 8 NOW 27 SBMG/COMMERICAL MUSIC GRP 31,390 -8%
VARIOUS ARTISTS
10 9 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 29,744 +4%
TAYLOR SWIFT
-- 10 MUDCRUTCH REPRISE 28,191 --
MUDCRUTCH
6 11 JUNO RHINO 25,252 -18%
SOUNDTRACK
4 12 FLIGHT OF THE CONCHORDS SUB POP 24,945 -50%
FLIGHT OF THE CONCHORDS
-- 13 STEVE WINWOOD COLUMBIA 23,629 --
NINE LIVES
11 14 ALVIN & THE CHIPMUNKS RAZOR & TIE 22,900 -15%
SOUNDTRACK
-- 15 CARLY SIMON HEAR MUSIC 22,676 --
THIS KIND OF LOVE
22 16 COLBIE CAILLAT UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 22,615 +19%
COCO
12 17 HANNAH MONTANA WALT DISNEY RECORDS 22,579 -15%
BEST OF BOTH WORLDS CONCERT
8 18 GEORGE STRAIT MCA NASHVILLE 22,283 -26%
TROUBADOUR
14 19 JACK JOHNSON BRUSHFIRE/UNIV REPUBLIC 21,990 -7%
SLEEP THROUGH THE STATIC
-- 20 AUGUSTANA EPIC 21,869 --
CAN'T LOVE, CAN'T HURT
13 21 JAMES OTTO WARNER BROS. NASHVILLE 21,001 -18%
SUNSET MAN
-- 22 NATASHA BEDINGFIELD EPIC 20,109 --
POCKETFUL OF SUNSHINE
18 23 JORDIN SPARKS 19/JIVE/ZLG 19,133 -6%
JORDIN SPARKS
16 24 RICK ROSS DEF JAM/IDJMG 18,102 -20%
TRILLA
-- 25 LIL' MAMA JIVE/ZLG 17,738 --
VYP: VOICE OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE
19 26 JONAS BROTHERS HOLLYWOOD 17,644 -13%
JONAS BROTHERS
23 27 DAUGHTRY RCA/RMG 17,631 0%
DAUGHTRY
17 28 LADY ANTEBELLUM CAPITOL NASHVILLE 16,720 -25%
LADY ANTEBELLUM
21 29 MICHAEL BUBLE REPRISE 16,274 -18%
CALL ME IRRESPONSIBLE
24 30 ALICIA KEYS J RECORDS/RMG 16,234 -6%
AS I AM
-- 31 PHIL STACEY LYRIC STREET 15,772 --
PHIL STACEY
3 32 ASHLEE SIMP